Range with %85 battery for Taycan 4S Performance Plus

[Raphie]

4s, 21 rs spyder, P+ battery. I avg 22-25kWh /100km
@ 85% charge my Porsche says 290km range. My SoH is 92%

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[RAHRCR]

@85% charge, I get 240 miles…which is ~386km.

 

[whitex]

208 mile @85% right now.

EDIT: just dropped to 207miles after the app updated.

 

[Kaan34]

@85% charge, I get 240 miles…which is ~386km.

Is it with A/C in eco mode?

 

[RAHRCR]

Is it with A/C in eco mode?

Yes it is. I have the insulated glass and I tinted the windows. AC is a bit too strong running in normal….

 

[f1eng]

AC will probably max out at 2KW (so approximately 6 miles range lost per hour of driving when AC is maxed out). Worth noting that heating consumes even more (on a cold day).

That is very much against the data I have seen in the past.

The A/C unit on a typical US car used to be about 25kW and whilst things have maybe got more efficient I don’t believe it is anything like 2kW.

 

[Kaan34]

Yes it is. I have the insulated glass and I tinted the windows. AC is a bit too strong running in normal….

Ok thank you, I guess Eco mode makes big difference then

 

[whitex]

That is very much against the data I have seen in the past.

The A/C unit on a typical US car used to be about 25kW and whilst things have maybe got more efficient I don’t believe it is anything like 2kW.

25KW? Not a chance. That would empty a full Taycan battery in just over 3hrs of being on (parked, 0 miles driven). That would also drop Taycan battery by 30% for just one hour of pre-conditioning. None of this is close to reality.

Teslas actually shows the power used by the car while preconditioning on shore power, plus if you enter diagnostic mode you can actually see power used by individual components. 2-3KW at most for total car draw with AC on. There is no way Porsche engineers made Taycan 10x worse.

Another point of reference, my whole-home AC unit uses about 2.4KW, and it's able to cool a large home. I think you lost a decimal point.

 

[f1eng]

25KW? Not a chance. That would empty a full Taycan battery in just over 3hrs of being on (parked, 0 miles driven). That would also drop Taycan battery by 30% for just one hour of pre-conditioning. None of this is close to reality.

Teslas actually shows the power used by the car while preconditioning on shore power, plus if you enter diagnostic mode you can actually see power used by individual components. 2-3KW at most for total car draw with AC on. There is no way Porsche engineers made Taycan 10x worse.

Another point of reference, my whole-home AC unit uses about 2.4KW, and it's able to cool a large home. I think you lost a decimal point.

As I wrote US cars USED to consume about 25kW.

I learned this around 50 years ago when looking into why most European cars at the time didn’t have A/C at all and found the Mopar A/C pump peak power requirement was more than the total power of a then current Mini , ie, if you revved a Mini up to peak power then engaged a Mopar A/C unit the engine would stall.

I also wrote they will be more efficient now, which they will, and makers are less extravagant now too. In any case I am sure the average power of any A/C unit doesn’t need to be anything like the maximum, obviously.

The range calculator shows approximately a 30% reduction in city range between A/C off and on at 30C ambient fwiw.

 

[Scandinavian]

That is very much against the data I have seen in the past.

The A/C unit on a typical US car used to be about 25kW and whilst things have maybe got more efficient I don’t believe it is anything like 2kW.

No that sounds way to much. I would have it pegged at about 1 kW. Can we not see the actual power consumption with Car Scanner?

Heating the car in winter times, with both battery heater and cabin heater consumes way more but nowhere 25 kW.

I have a very large installation of a heat pump that can heat my house in winter and that max out at 9 kW!

And that unit is about the same size as more than half a Taycan in volume.

 

[Scandinavian]

I just checked the overall consumption with Car Scanner app in my Taycan.
Car parked outside in 25 C and sun shining for several hours, so hot inside.

Car switched on music playing lights etc on. consumption 0.44 kW
Same with AC on and inside temp set at 20 C. 2.75 kW
Same with AC in Eco mode 1.38 kW.

Range difference for me on the GOM is about 5- 6 % between full AC on and all ventilation off.

Energy consumption in winter time will be very much more when the PTC heater kicks in. I think that one is rated at 10 kW.

 

[tchavei]

I just checked the overall consumption with Car Scanner app in my Taycan.
Car parked outside in 25 C and sun shining for several hours, so hot inside.

Car switched on music playing lights etc on. consumption 0.44 kW
Same with AC on and inside temp set at 20 C. 2.75 kW
Same with AC in Eco mode 1.38 kW.

Range difference for me on the GOM is about 5- 6 % between full AC on and all ventilation off.

Energy consumption in winter time will be very much more when the PTC heater kicks in. I think that one is rated at 10 kW.

2.75kWh? Jesus christ. My wash machine, oven and microwave together use less ?

 

[Scuba1230]

With outside temperature around 22c I get about 310kms at 85% when in town driving. 4S PB+, 21” RS wheels and electric charge covers which also drain range. Normal driving mode and AC in eco mode

 

[tchavei]

With outside temperature around 22c I get about 310kms at 85% when in town driving. 4S PB+, 21” RS wheels and electric charge covers which also drain range. Normal driving mode and AC in eco mode

Right now I'm getting 307km with 76% with AC in eco, city driving, 21'' wheels on PB+ (RWD) so that would be around 343km on 85% (linear extrapolation) which has been consistent for the past two weeks at least... I get 404km at 100%

 

[LonePalmBJ]

Hi guys,

What is the range you get with %85 battery for Taycan 4S Performance plus in normal mode with city driving?

It's pretty consistent between 225-230 miles at 85% for me. I also have a 4S with the Performance Plus battery, and generally only drive around town in Normal mode. I just looked at the app and see this:

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