Redshift Performance - News & Updates - Secondary ECU in the mail without shipping original!

[unbiased]

The biggest benefit goes to the GTS version since it’s a detuned turbo s. I don’t think anyone really has the numbers you are asking for. Suffice to say it works as advertised.

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[Longy_UK]

Redshift may sponsor the forum but seem unable to respond to any questions?

Surely they've done the upgrade to a GTS? Surely they'd be shouting about the 'actual' results?

 

[Porsche-Guru]

Redshift may sponsor the forum but seem unable to respond to any questions?

Surely they've done the upgrade to a GTS? Surely they'd be shouting about the 'actual' results?

There is another business (a bit closer to UK) who also do the same stuff, if you are interested...

 

[whitex]

Redshift may sponsor the forum but seem unable to respond to any questions?

Surely they've done the upgrade to a GTS? Surely they'd be shouting about the 'actual' results?

It's summer time. School just ended. People get busy, take vacations. All that said however, I think the assumption you are making is that providers of upgrades have at least all trims of the Taycan available to them to test, which is not the typical case for businesses like this. It's simply impractical. Even if @redshift-performance have done a GTS upgrade, the customer might not have been willing to take the car to a drag strip to test before and after - some may be timid, others may be worried that their car insurance does not cover track usage, yet others are just busy and don't want to put the time towards rigorous testing (perhaps to them, the seat of the pants accelerometer is sufficient), and proper, rigorously measured results is you want to see. Last but not least, people want to see independent tests, not from the provider. Even Porsche publishes their best case scenario numbers (the advertised hp is only delivered in ideal situations, battery is properly charged and warmed, you have correct tires and road surface, etc), which is why people to go third party reviews to see actual achieved numbers - nobody would assign much credibility a drag race between Porsche and competitor if organized by Porsche. Check out the drag race between Cybertruck and a high priced 911 arranged, filmed and presented by Tesla.

Does the above drag race tell you anything of value about the performance of either car?

 

[unbiased]

I concur. It’s up to the customer to complete the before and after measurements. And very few people have time/interest to do so. Suffice to say according to feedback from several forum members who are more comfortable sharing their experience the promised performance increase is legit. Does it really matter what the exact numbers are?

 

[n3ophyte]

Just took delivery of my secondary ECU with Stage 3 tune from Mario at RedShift Performance. Mario has been excellent to deal with throughout the ordering process.

I’ll fit this ECU in the next couple of days and report my findings.

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

From what I have read, the biggest differences in the Turbo and Turbo S with the tune is having access to all 800BHP at all times and not just during launch control mode. Outside of that, there will not be much of a performance change with 50bhp on a 5200lb car!!! maybe a 3mph increase in trap speeds in the quarter mile (130/131 stock vs 133/134mph tuned).
The 60-130 will be the biggest change since that can be achieved from a roll instead of only with launching from stop (with launch control active)

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

Just took delivery of my secondary ECU with Stage 3 tune from Mario at RedShift Performance. Mario has been excellent to deal with throughout the ordering process.

I’ll fit this ECU in the next couple of days and report my findings.

Do you have any before draggy runs with 90% or higher SOC?

 

[Paint_To_Sample]

I just received and installed my Redshift ECU yesterday on my ST GTS. Big shout out to Mario for working hard to get my ECU shipped out to me before he left town for vacation at the end of last week!

I took Redshift up on the “secondary ECU“ option and did not have to send in my factory unit. Simply exported a dataset that I read off my car using a bluetooth OBD scanner and the CarScanner app.

I was going to try to gather some performance data, however, I seem to have lost my Draggy hardware in a recent move. I believe the CarScanner app will enable me to record 0-X times, so I will try to do that.

Suffice to say, I have no doubt the car is putting out SUBSTANTIALLY more power than in stock form. The acceleration at max power is, frankly, almost too much and definitely going to get me in trouble!

 

[n3ophyte]

Do you have any before draggy runs with 90% or higher SOC?

No. Haven’t bought a Dragy yet. If my butt dyno can’t detect a performance boost I may buy one. Shouldn’t be necessary though.

I also optioned

1. Unfiltered throttle response
2. Removal of the 160 max mph restriction
3. Increased recuperation force (engine braking)

To be honest, I already get tunnel vision when doing the standard tune 751bhp launch for 2.5 seconds. Having 800+ bhp on tap at all times will be mental!

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

For folks who have done the upgrade, what are your impressions on the unfiltered throttle response before/after? I find the drivability of the car to be spot-on in heavy traffic, and easy on the passengers.

 

[Electron]

For folks who have done the upgrade, what are your impressions on the unfiltered throttle response before/after? I find the drivability of the car to be spot-on in heavy traffic, and easy on the passengers.

I was wondering the same thing. I’m very concerned that ”daily driver drive-ability” would be sacrificed by switching to unfiltered throttle response.

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

I was wondering the same thing. I’m very concerned that ”daily driver drive-ability” would be sacrificed by switching to unfiltered throttle response.

I doubt it will ever be like an on-and-off switch the way Tesla's are. But even Tesla's can be driven smoothly in traffic (I have had two). So the unfiltered response is more of removing the adaptation in throttle response. SO I am guessing it will make the car as snappy as Porsche tuned it from the factory before our lazy driving muffled it all up.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

I doubt it will ever be like an on-and-off switch the way Tesla's are. But even Tesla's can be driven smoothly in traffic (I have had two). So the unfiltered response is more of removing the adaptation in throttle response. SO I am guessing it will make the car as snappy as Porsche tuned it from the factory before our lazy driving muffled it all up.

I've had mine since new, and have not noticed any change in pedal response. Having been through a few other Porsches, it's a "feature" - the first segment of the travel is muted/reduced for low speed drivability. (On cars with a real throttle cable, this was achieved with an eccentric cam; replacing it with a symmetrical/circular cam made for an instant "improvement" in acceleration!)

My concern is more about the effect (especially if coupled with increased recuperation) on the passengers - we as drivers filter our own sensations through our inputs to the car.

 

[whitex]

I've had mine since new, and have not noticed any change in pedal response. Having been through a few other Porsches, it's a "feature" - the first segment of the travel is muted/reduced for low speed drivability. (On cars with a real throttle cable, this was achieved with an eccentric cam; replacing it with a symmetrical/circular cam made for an instant "improvement" in acceleration!)

My concern is more about the effect (especially if coupled with increased recuperation) on the passengers - we as drivers filter our own sensations through our inputs to the car.

I always assumed driving mode changes throttle mapping, i.e. Sport+ makes the throttle more responsive. I'll have to pay attention next time I drive, but I do remember long time ago, on my very first Taycan test drive, when I put it in Sport+ my impression was that the car became very "twitchy", even small accelerator inputs would shift down. Switching to Normal made the car seem calmer. That said, this was my very first Taycan impression, I might have just been noticing the gear shift mapping changing rather than accelerator mapping.

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