2027 Taycan info?

[GreenHornet]

Just a small correction. The ICE Macan and 718 was not discontinued because of any EU regulation. It was due to the EU was the first to implement UN regulation R155 in their laws.

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[Gkwan]

There are no news and the fact that the configurator still only has 2026 models reminiscent of the 2024 model year that was very short before 2025 J1.2 was rolled out. This means to me that 2027 will be just a placeholder with a few things you mentioned and then 2028 model will be something different.

I see the following outcomes: 1) J1.3 refresh type release with limited production 2) J2.1 on shared with Panamera platform which most likely completely erase the look and the original soul (same path as Macan ICE that went mostly Audi and for 2028 will be basically an Audi and a hybrid) 3) End of life due to intense competition.

hey there Sergey, I'll vote for you #1 J1.3 refresh, with maybe a slightly improved battery on top & charge speed to keep up (nothing spectacular)

 

[jeffb]

Porsche life cycles are as follows typically

4 years for the .1 version
4 years for the .2 version
new generation after the .2

so far Taycan has followed that model

2020-2024 first generation - some minor updates in 2023
2025-2028? .2 Taycan - some minor updates in 2027

2029 will be the "first" new Taycan that offers signficant' deviation from the previous generations - it will be amounced sometime in 2028 - with first deliveries in fall of 2028 for the MY'2029 version of the Taycan

it will be "pre-announced" with platium, gold, special editions with nice mix of options at a favorable price as they boost the outgoing model's sales with special editions that offer a mix of options/branding you can't quite build in the configurator…

this only true _IF_ Porsche decides to continue the Taycan experiment - they may lose interest - there are rumor, but no decisions yet…

I see no reason for this to change and the 8 year cycle is well established in:

• engineering
• manufacturing
• supply chain mgmt
• amortization of capital expeditures
• dealer training
• market/pricing segmentation
• and typical lifecydle durations of these types of products
• a lot of corp history that would reist changing this cycle…

it would be a surprising deviation for Porsche to deviate from this well established corp cycle…major surprise

virtual transmission is 100% a software gimik and therefore could be introduced for the 2027 MY - but let's not mistake that for an actual production/mechanical change…

I welcome being wrong, but will be unsurprised if I'm right.

I've heard the same from my contact at my dealer, which would mean the '30 model year

 

[Irish Guy]

I've heard the same from my contact at my dealer, which would mean the '30 model year

My dealer told me that the J1.2 will be the last Taycan. Going forward, the Taycan and Panamera will be merged.

As tragic as it may be, this report is plenty credible in light of the disastrous economics associated with Porsche’s over-exuberance in EVs, incredibly foolish decision to forego a new-generation, petrol version of its most profitable model (the Macan), and overproduction of J1.1 Taycans, which helped to fuel massive depreciation, tarnishing the brand, suppressing demand, and thus undermining the long-term investment thesis for the Taycan as a standalone model. It wasn’t all Porsche’s fault, of course, but - fault or not - there were always going to be consequences around Porsche’s $4.2 billion write-down.

This leaves me more than a little sad. The Taycan is an iconic and truly beautiful car - perhaps the most gorgeous 4-door on the market. Few such cars display such elegance and signal pure speed at a glance. And for all its quirks, the Taycan is a magnificent drive. I absolutely love my 2023 Taycan GTS. It’s the best daily driver that I’ve ever had.

I’m seriously contemplating putting in a special order for a 2027 Turbo S. If this is likely going to be the end of the Taycan line, I’d like to have one of the best and keep it for the long haul. I’m looking for a meaningful increment in range relative to my GTS, the absence of systemic battery manufacturing issues that accompany the J1.1 (worrisome for long-term ownership), and a radical boost in power. I also want in on that magical active suspension tech.

Yes, the depreciation outlook for a Taycan TS will be savage, but if I keep it for a long time, then it doesn’t really matter. I plan to put in an order with every option that speaks to me - all to make it feel special and like a keeper. It’d be frustrating, of course, if Porsche soon after announced a new generation Taycan with substantial improvements in range, weight, etc., but that’s looking unlikely. If the Taycan goes the direction of the Panamera, then whatever emerges from their fusion won’t be the same.

 

[Gkwan]

My dealer told me that the J1.2 will be the last Taycan. Going forward, the Taycan and Panamera will be merged.

As tragic as it may be, this report is plenty credible in light of the disastrous economics associated with Porsche’s over-exuberance in EVs, incredibly foolish decision to forego a new-generation, petrol version of its most profitable model (the Macan), and overproduction of J1.1 Taycans, which helped to fuel massive depreciation, tarnishing the brand, suppressing demand, and thus undermining the long-term investment thesis for the Taycan as a standalone model. It wasn’t all Porsche’s fault, of course, but - fault or not - there were always going to be consequences around Porsche’s $4.2 billion write-down.

This leaves me more than a little sad. The Taycan is an iconic and truly beautiful car - perhaps the most gorgeous 4-door on the market. Few such cars display such elegance and signal pure speed at a glance. And for all its quirks, the Taycan is a magnificent drive. I absolutely love my 2023 Taycan GTS. It’s the best daily driver that I’ve ever had.

I’m seriously contemplating putting in a special order for a 2027 Turbo S. If this is likely going to be the end of the Taycan line, I’d like to have one of the best and keep it for the long haul. I’m looking for a meaningful increment in range relative to my GTS, the absence of systemic battery manufacturing issues that accompany the J1.1 (worrisome for long-term ownership), and a radical boost in power. I also want in on that magical active suspension tech.

Yes, the depreciation outlook for a Taycan TS will be savage, but if I keep it for a long time, then it doesn’t really matter. I plan to put in an order with every option that speaks to me - all to make it feel special and like a keeper. It’d be frustrating, of course, if Porsche soon after announced a new generation Taycan with substantial improvements in range, weight, etc., but that’s looking unlikely. If the Taycan goes the direction of the Panamera, then whatever emerges from their fusion won’t be the same.

unless they take only the good points of the Panamera (bigger space inside & trunk) and keep this beautiful line
I was looking at Panameras lately, I still prefer my T J1.1 Turbo but it's not that far, I could probably live with a new version 100% electrical inspired by the Taycan, more space, more confort, that's what I'll be looking for !
Unless I sign up a Cayenne Coupé S !

 

[Vim Schrotnock]

My experience has been the dealers are the last to know about new models. Porsche wants them to sell what they have, so they are not well informed on this topic... People on this thread will know about things WAY before the dealers do.

In terms of 'merging' the Taycan with the Panamera - I don't think it will happen. The Panamera will be a 'hybrid' car for some time, and trying to 'optimize' a sports sedan to accommodate both an ICE and an EV battery will result in a car that's not really optimized for either, which doesn't fit with Porsche. It's just silly to even think that a 'high performance' sports sedan platform could be developed that could house an ICE or EV battery. No one has done it, and no car manufacturer that is serious about performance would try.

 

[Gkwan]

My experience has been the dealers are the last to know about new models. Porsche wants them to sell what they have, so they are not well informed on this topic... People on this thread will know about things WAY before the dealers do.

In terms of 'merging' the Taycan with the Panamera - I don't think it will happen. The Panamera will be a 'hybrid' car for some time, and trying to 'optimize' a sports sedan to accommodate both an ICE and an EV battery will result in a car that's not really optimized for either, which doesn't fit with Porsche. It's just silly to even think that a 'high performance' sports sedan platform could be developed that could house an ICE or EV battery. No one has done it, and no car manufacturer that is serious about performance would try.

my bad, I thought we were talking about having just 1 model, electric, replacing both the Taycan & the Panamera (ie not a dual-platform ICE/EV model).
Guess I was dreaming

 

[prj]

I mean, the new Taycan will be on PPE Evo platform, so dedicated J platform is most likely dead. From the platform standpoint it's going to be more like an Audi A6.
Of course the platform is very adaptable, so who knows what they manage to do with it...

Whether it will be called the Panamera EV, the Taycan, the Taycamera or the Panacan I have no idea.

 

[Gkwan]

I mean, the new Taycan will be on PPE Evo platform, so dedicated J platform is most likely dead. From the platform standpoint it's going to be more like an Audi A6.
Of course the platform is very adaptable, so who knows what they manage to do with it...

Whether it will be called the Panamera EV, the Taycan, the Taycamera or the Panacan I have no idea.

Taycamera is a good one lol

 

[gnr3312]

Taycamera is a good one lol

I like Panacan lol

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Since the Panamerica next version will have a front gas engine, that means its “nose height” has to be more than the Taycan‘S. That is unless they come up with two different height front fascias (a low and a high one); if only front fascia, to accommodate that front ICE engine would mean that the Taycan’s low gorgeous front end could well be lost in a merging of the Taycan and the Panamera into one model. That would be sad.

 

[SergeyIndy]

I am with the @Irish Guy except I will be holding on to the J1.1 as I am not in a position (cost), at least not at this time, to leap into the last standing Taycan to keep the best thing going. I do not have much experience with different cars, but driving my Taycan this week on a day trip out of town was just an absolute blast with no situation that it would not handle with maximum comfort and fun possible. City zipping, highway cruising, long construction stretches, big bends/turns, etc. with its versatility just cannot be overstated. Also, charged at EA at my preferred battery friendly setting in no time with battery staying relatively cool at 110F, and off I go having fun again with just more smiles per mile imaginable. Just washed it after the trip and thinking what a beast and the best looking one to boot with no chance of this getting old. There are a few things I wish they did not do for J1.2 that are mostly about the look and ergonomics so certainly looking forward to what they do with the next one.

Took the picture before proceeding to dry it, it is in lift mode, so not looking its best.

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