Charger Decision

[joefig44]

First EV, and electrician wants to know what charger I'm going to go with for my 25 Taycan 4S.

I'm hardwiring it.

I live in Canada.

I'm considering one of 3:

Tesla Universal Wall Connector
Chargepoint HomeFlex
Grizzl-e Classic 40A

Is one a clear choice for the Taycan, or does it really matter? Chargepoint is ~$130 more than the other two.

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[Watchesandburgers]

I have a Chargepoint HomeFlex and it works great. No issues. I've read many good reviews of the Tesla Universal as well.

 

[daveo4EV]

First EV, and electrician wants to know what charger I'm going to go with for my 25 Taycan 4S.

I'm hardwiring it.

I live in Canada.

I'm considering one of 3:

Tesla Universal Wall Connector
Chargepoint HomeFlex
Grizzl-e Classic 40A

Is one a clear choice for the Taycan, or does it really matter? Chargepoint is ~$130 more than the other two.

hard to go wrong with that list - I'd do either the ChargePoint or Tesla Universal - both of which have J-1772 & NACS support and both are adjustable to any size breaker…

 

[joefig44]

Ok - went with the Chargepoint HomeFlex hardwired J1772.
The Tesla charger was actually a lot more expensive (misquoted above).

The Chargepoint doesn't come with NACS, but then again I'm not buying a Tesla so it will work.

 

[daveo4EV]

Ok - went with the Chargepoint HomeFlex hardwired J1772.
The Tesla charger was actually a lot more expensive (misquoted above).

The Chargepoint doesn't come with NACS, but then again I'm not buying a Tesla so it will work.

but if you ever get a NACS vehicle - the cord can be easily swapped for NACS - so you're good for future - they've designed to be "modular".

https://store.chargepoint.com/product/nacs-cable-kit

 

[SergeyIndy]

I like my Emporia EVSE for the clean look. But again, cannot go wrong with the choices that you listed.

 

[RAHRCR]

In cold weather, cable flexibility is very important. I like the charge point but really dislike that it doesn’t load power share. This is the one time that I would strongly consider the Kim Jun Elon brand. The Grizzl E looks solid but its cable would be annoying where you live.

 

[joefig44]

What does load power sharing entail?

So the Tesla cord is that much better than Charge point?

 

[joefig44]

but if you ever get a NACS vehicle - the cord can be easily swapped for NACS - so you're good for future - they've designed to be "modular".

https://store.chargepoint.com/product/nacs-cable-kit

You know, for the extra $270 for the NACS cable one day, it's almost better to just buy the Tesla Universal connector now for the premium but save money because it has NACS. One day all vehicles will have NACS I bet.

 

[daveo4EV]

You know, for the extra $270 for the NACS cable one day, it's almost better to just buy the Tesla Universal connector now for the premium but save money because it has NACS. One day all vehicles will have NACS I bet.

no bet required - it's a fact everyone is transitioning to NACS in North American EV's - it's just a matter of different manufacturers roll out schedules…Hyundai and Kia will be entirely NACS by 2026 year models…only VW/Audi/Porsche are lagging…everyone else has said 2025 or 2026…

 

[daveo4EV]

What does load power sharing entail?

So the Tesla cord is that much better than Charge point?

chargepoint to my knowledge has no support for "shared" capacity charging with multiple chargePoint flex units - so they are not better or worse - but they lack a feature that may or may not be of any use to you in the future…

power sharing is for multi-EV/PHEV households that can not afford/install/engineer a dedicated circuit for each EV Charger (EVSE) - if say you have one 60 amp circuit - and it would be impossible/terrible-expensive to add a 2nd 50/60 amp circuit - you can use power sharing to install 2 Tesla Wall Chargers and then "share" existing 60 amp circuit between 2 separate Tesla Wall Chargers…

the wall chargers will automatically "share/split" the available existing 60 amp budget when charging 2 EV's - or if charging only one EV they will provide _FULL_ power to any single EV/Phev that is charging…

it's very effective for overnight charging of multiple EV's with out having to expand your home electrical system to accommodate "n" dedicated EV circuits…

powersharing supports up to "6" wall chargers sharing upto 300 amp total circuit capacity (Tesla obviously have some commerical applications in mind - this is ridiculous to consider for most residential applications).

I've had such a system for years (first with gen2 Tesla Wall chargers and now with gen3 Wall Chargers)

I have 3 Tesla Universal Wall Chargers - each configured for max 60/48 amps - and they are configured using "PowerShare" to share the available 80 amp charging capacity (100 amp circuit breaker)…I routinely charge 2-3 EV's over night - and I just plug all 3 cars in and walk away- and the 3 chargers work 'the problem' over night - as one EV "finishes" the remaining EV(s) get the available amps - until there is one left standing getting full power…it works slick - and those that have taken the time and effort to setup this sort of system up will not go back to anything else...

you don't have to setup power sharing right away -but if you start with 1 Tesla Wall Charger when it comes time to add a 2nd it will not require a new circuit or new capacity - just additional wiring for the 2nd EV charger, and some software configuration.

for me the Tesla unit is preferred vs. the Chargepoint because:

• Tesla unit is both J-1772 & NACS - not one or the other - it has a built-in adapter for J-1772
  • it always has both types of plugs "on tap" - no need to switch cords
• Powersharing - which is not an issue if you only own one EV or PHEV - but once you have two or more in your garage it's a great feature
• similar pricing

Tesla Universal Wall Charger is my #1 choice
ChargePoint Flex is my #1.1 choice - #2 doesn't give it enough credit - it's really that good so it's also a #1 choice with a slight edge to the Tesla unit…

the two chargers are both sooooo good - they are neck and neck in my book.

I hope this helps.

 

[joefig44]

Ok - well one EV will be the norm for at least 3 years so I'll figure it out after that. For now, I've ordered the Chargepoint.

 

[daveo4EV]

Ok - well one EV will be the norm for at least 3 years so I'll figure it out after that. For now, I've ordered the Chargepoint.

I like this plan for you - and now I'm pretty sure you're making a very well informed decision - which is always best - the chargepoint is a great choice!! no question.

 

[Flying ace]

I don't think j1772 is a major consideration. You can also use the Lectron j1772-NACS adapter, and the adapter can be fixed long-term onto the plughead

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