Highly doubt it, i highly suspect that the new architecture and the old one is completely different. Plus there is not real benefit for ANYONE. Is there anything you are missing right now. If there is not even a need from customer side. Why would anyone waste money to change the OLD system.
'Need' is far too high a bar for inclusion in a Porsche. The bar should rather be a combination of convenience, usability, consistency, reliability, reduced cognitive load, user experience. While I do not find the UX of CarPlay particular good, it is better than PCM's, but for me the chief issue is consistency. I dislike switching between the two. I would like to be getting into the car, picking up a destination from an email or text, and have it appear in my HUD. I would like my second screen to be at least as useful to my passenger as their phone, and they should be able to select desris rions and create routes for me from messages they receive on their phones.
I've not really looked into the new PCM but if they're building it on Android that'll be Android Automotive - which is basically an optimised OS for vehicles and runs on the cars hardware - Android Auto (annoyingly a similar name!) and CarPlay (the current version at least) both mainly use the phone's hardware to provide the screens/app support. Cars with the system built on Android Auto can happily support CarPlay or Android Auto (Polestars do) but may not support either (like Rivian). Porsche can easily add CarPlay support if they're building on Android Automotive.
Amen to that!
Agree. Recently got a 15 as well and it’s MUCH better than my previous IPhone…….. but has occasionally struggled to connect and a few times doesn’t connect all.
I recently updated to 17.2. Knock on wood, the phone still connects in under 10 seconds after getting in the car and starting the car. It’s only been a few days, but one thing I noticed that CarPlay doesn’t automatically shows up on the screen like it did before, but the green icon still shows up on the lower screen which brings up Carplay when pressed.
Agreed. All the other climate and ambient lighting functions they implemented via CarPlay recently is useless when they can’t even put the CarPlay map in the driver display, let alone the HUD.
I'm with you on this, though I fear we are in the minority. The car play interface does seem toy-like to me, and worse the connectivity with the car for things like state of charge is unreliable - that could be on Porsche, but my experience with CP's new EV-aware navigation was not great because of the loss of battery information on almost every trip.
Some examples that come to mind:
Thanks, but these are all benefits from the current carplay. Not next gen. So what will next gen add? It just adds support for multiple screens?Some examples that come to mind:
- Ability to run an app of your choice for navigation. For example, PCM does not show information available on Waze, such as speed traps, road hazards. I keep it on even without destination to see traffic and hazards. So far besides the speed traps, it quite likely helped me avoid hitting a dead deer on a highway at night. I heard the hazard reported warning, so started paying more attention, it was just over the hill so I had little warning. I wasn't even expecting such a large animal in my lane, must have been a recent kill. I hope I would have noticed it if I wasn't warned, but the warning definitely helped.
- Ability to start navigation on your phone before you get to the car. Allows you to check traffic ahead, see the route, adjust the route if necessary, etc. I know the Porsche app is supposed to do some of that, but it's not very well integrated and, most importantly it has to work at the instant you want to navigate, which is not always the case (e.g. app says car is in privacy mode, when it is not, or it cannot connect to the car, etc).
- Backup nav app. A couple of days into my Taycan ownership I tried navigating 3,000 mile long trip with the PCM, I entered the destination, it never finished, just kept on "thinking". I entered the trip into ABRP on my phone and it worked just fine. Why did PCM not route, I don't know, maybe Porsche server was down, maybe connectivity was flaky, maybe 3,000 miles is too much for it, I don' t know. Also, apps such as Google maps can route offline (you can pre-download maps ahead of time), PCM does not seem to have this mode, it keeps downloading tiles (and popping up annoying messages about it) throughout a trip.
- Updates with latest tech - most people switch phones much more often than cars. Every 2-4 years I get a new phone which has new features, works faster, etc. Unlikely I will be switching out for a new PCM to get a speed boost for the apps (it's already is annoying slow sometimes as far as responsiveness, especially when using an app you haven't used in a while, like climate screens).
- Bug fixes - phones and apps get updates a lot more often than Porsche spits out OTAs (and then however many months for them to get applied - for example I got an email about pending OTA, 2 months later still nothing, then I took it in for service so I assume they applied it offline). When PCM used to crash and hang, it took months to get a fix for that.
- Portability of experience. I like the fact that when I rent cars on trips I can use the same nav app, all my settings are already there, I don't need to transfer my contacts to the car, etc, etc.
- Ability to use internet calls in the car (e.g MsTeams). Yea, it kind of works via bluetooth, but not great integration with every app.
- Innovation. Other apps will come once Apple Carplay is more integrated. There is no way Porsche can keep up with the number of third party developers who come up with useful apps. Tesla is way better than Porsche at software, yet it took them 7-8 years before they finally had a way to add a waypoint to your trip, 11 years before they finally added an option to show traffic cameras, still don't show speed traps or road hazards. PCM is ok at estimating SoC at destination as long as you are not driving across varying weather, but even then ABRP is better at it. When traveling across warm and cold states on the same trip, PCM was off as much as 30% vs. ABRP was within 5% (surprising given it does not have a real time status from the car like the PCM does - it relied purely on SoC at the start, map & traffic & weather data, and my planned offset from speed limit). Some day PCM might get an update which will make it better, I couldn't postpone my trip home however many years it will take them to do it.
