Porsche Connect

[Iben]

Still works without the connect subsription.?

To me, the most annoying missing feature is not being able to see current SoC and if/how fast currently charging in the app and you cannot start/stop charging remotely without the subscription.

I have now lost the pre-cool / heat in the app as well.
Its only charging stations left in the app.

This is bad from Porsche

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[JohnnyCage]

I did not realise it would be different in other countries. I am in the Netherlands.

You just press this button in the picture below and then the menu of the second picture appears. If you don’t get this without the subscription it is indeed quite bad..

Also not being able to see the SoC and current charging is poor imho.

 

[f1eng]

Since I imagine what you are paying for is the car SIM card and its 4G or 5G subscription so it surely should come as no surprise that if you stop paying the subscription you will lose the connection to the car that allows the ‘net connection and everything that goes with it.
It is a bit expensive though.

 

[JohnnyCage]

Since I imagine what you are paying for is the car SIM card and its 4G or 5G subscription so it surely should come as no surprise that if you stop paying the subscription you will lose the connection to the car that allows the ‘net connection and everything that goes with it.
It is a bit expensive though.

Maybe that explains it, yet (in NL) I still have the pre-heat/cool feature above without the connect subscription.
Or should I not mention as Porsche may be reading here as well?

 

[f1eng]

Maybe that explains it, yet (in NL) I still have the pre-heat/cool feature above without the connect subscription.
Or should I not mention as Porsche may be reading here as well?

I was making a general point since mobile phone systems and signal coverage vary in different regions and countries, but it does seem odd that any function which requires connection to the car could possibly work if the connection to the car no longer is being paid for.
There is no wifi connectivity so no connection must surely = no access to any data or control of the car.
Surely?

 

[Scandinavian]

I was making a general point since mobile phone systems and signal coverage vary in different regions and countries, but it does seem odd that any function which requires connection to the car could possibly work if the connection to the car no longer is being paid for.
There is no wifi connectivity so no connection must surely = no access to any data or control of the car.
Surely?

I think you are correct that you pay for the SIM related Porsche Connect, ie Internet radio, SoC, etc etc.

But There is more than one connection in the car, because the likes of the SOS button, I think still works without the rest of the connectivity? At least that happened a lot in the beginning when other communications were lost due to HW failures? Perhaps the preheat bypasses the infotainment connection as well?

 

[bj33813]

I will ask again, if you have the EMEI for your vehicle, why can't you just add a second line to your cell phone provider using that EMEI for the car? It will surely be less than Porsches fee.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

I will ask again, if you have the EMEI for your vehicle, why can't you just add a second line to your cell phone provider using that EMEI for the car? It will surely be less than Porsches fee.

It's unlikely that is how Connect works; in fact, it's extremely likely that the car <-> Porsche connectivity remains functional past the expiration of the Connect subscription.

There are 2 possible ways this functionality is implemented:
- user/app is authorized on 'download'/executing an operation in the app - check charge, set timer preheat, unlock etc. (most likely)
- car is authorized on 'upload' - the car is authorized to connect to the cloud/Porsche backend services, but each of the various functions (charge, timer, location etc.) is individually authorized based on a car+function certificate. That is, either the backend queries the car (or not) for any of {charge, location, timers etc.} based on the 'active' status of that respective function (more likely), or the car itself is posting updates, and some of these are not accepted.

There were quite a few older threads on this topic; some of the early owners who went through this renewal at the beginning of the year indicated that most of the functionality in the portal (trips + consumption, location etc.) remained active after their Connect subscription had expired.

 

[RickDC]

No way I pay that money, a reap off for a lousy app, I only found useful to know the battery charging status, opening a closing doors is so slow that is not useful. I purchased my car after lease ended and now I don’t have the satellite maps, I guess needs the Porsche connect. I pay less than 10 for my Tesla but offer great fast futures a most have. Porsche should reduce the price to what it’s offer, even Tesla price could be somewhat ok offering way less and slow And perhaps the resale prices wouldn’t still falling for such of great car.

 

[Remedy234]

I think without Porsche Connect you lose the ability to pre-cool/heat the car remotely which depending on your climate is a major feature of an EV for many people.

That’s not true. At Least in the UK.
My subscription ran out months ago and still can heat or cool

 

[anonymouse]

That’s not true. At Least in the UK.
My subscription ran out months ago and still can heat or cool

Really? I'm surprised. Others have said that you lose the 4G connectivity to the car, so how does your iPhone app reach the car to turn preheating/precooling on remotely?

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