Porsche Taycan never again

[prj]

So it is not from the the same provider as the initial factory warranty, correct?

For all intents and purposes it is because you're buying it directly from Porsche and the contract is between you and Porsche.

You also get the Porsche Approved certificate.

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[D00notD00d]

Worth correcting a few of points on the Porsche EU/GB Approved Warranty.

• You won't find this in web sales material (which promises up to 15 years unlimited mileage peace of mind cover) but the conditions small print says it covers only manufacturing defects.
• Porsche AG is both judge and jury on what is a manufacturing defect (unless challenged via consumer legislation with contrary evidence). There's probably underlying claims terms and £ limits set by the insurance underwriters actuaries.
  
  
• It is transferable only to a private buyer or Porsche dealer.
  
  
• The terms are not equivalent to a new car warranty.
  
  
• Under the UK new car warranty the independent ombudsman arbitrates any claims disputes. Unlike the rest of the VW/Audi group, Porsche has not signed up to that scheme for their extended warranty. You're served better by an 'Audi Taycan' extended warranty than a Porsche Taycan warranty. https://insurewithaudi.vwfs.co.uk/extended-warranty/components.html

 

[whitex]

For all intents and purposes it is because you're buying it directly from Porsche and the contract is between you and Porsche.

You also get the Porsche Approved certificate.

Are the coverage (parts and failure codes covered) and any deductibles identical between the original new vehicle warranty and extended warranty? In the US, it is not (even though some people find out only when they try to claim it).

 

[prj]

Are the coverage (parts and failure codes covered) and any deductibles identical between the original new vehicle warranty and extended warranty? In the US, it is not (even though some people find out only when they try to claim it).

There are no deductibles or anything like that.
In the EU there is no mandatory warranty at all on any products. In case of sale from a company to a consumer (does not matter old or new car), the consumer has the ability to lodge a complaint about any defects or fitness for purpose regarding the product for two years from the date of purchase. For the first year it is assumed that the defect was present at the moment of sale unless proven otherwise. For the second year the customer has to prove that the defect was present at the moment of sale.
These rights are there regardless if any warranty is offered or not and regardless what the warranty terms are.

That is the extent of it. If it's a B2B transaction then any such disputes just go to court, the law only says the goods have to be as described, and that's it.

So bearing this in mind, any warranty in the EU is a strictly voluntary agreement between the seller and the buyer. So the seller makes the rules. There are no laws governing what the warranty has to cover or not cover. This is very different from the US.

Now, after you know this, the Porsche Approved warranty is identical to the standard warranty apart from:
1. Acoustic defects that do not affect the functionality of the vehicle are not covered
2. Track use is not covered if the car is used in competitions.
3. The warranty does not cover aging related (!) defects of windshield wipers, tyres, brake pads and discs, shock absorbers, clutches, engine belts, spark plugs, batteries, and high voltage batteries.
4. The warranty is not valid if the vehicle is owned by:
a) Companies engaged in the sale, rental or leasing of motor vehicles
b) Driving schools
c) Companies engaged in transportation of people (such as Taxi and similar services).
d) Companies engaged in maintenance or repair of motor vehicles.

Note that after the ARB6/7 updates the new software detects "aging faults" in battery modules, and the reason they are called that, is because they are not covered after the initial 8 years of the HV battery warranty pass. However, if the battery has an isolation fault, water ingress or other such failures, then this is still covered under the warranty, even if it results in battery replacement.

So is this identical to the new car warranty? Not quite, but it is also not very different from it.

It also means the Taycan isn't going to be worth jack shit after it's 8 years old. Since you can get the "aging fault" in any battery module at any time, which actually is a manufacturing defect in the battery, but they are excluding those from Porsche Approved.

 

[tigerbalm]

Afaik, factory warranty is 24 months, but it’s always possible to purchase additional year, two, three…

Think it depends on the country. Its a minimum of 3 years new car warranty in Ireland. I'd have thought it would be standard across the EU – but seems not so.

 

[Pete85]

I paid 4000 eur for 3 years extended warranty. It's a no-brainer imho. And here in Finland that warranty seems to cover everything. I had the left front LED-light module changed and only that would have been over 3000 eur without warranty. I was positively surprised that the warranty covered that, too as you could think the LED being a "wearing" part. No problems whatsoever.

I also had both front fans changed to the new models as the right one was stuck. That would have been something like 8000 eur.....

I would have never kept the Taycan without extending the warranty. I have extended already twice, this last one is valid until May 2028.

 

[B61]

That should lead to some good initial advice!

Do not buy a Porsche Taycan in the first place!

I’d modify to… never buy first version

 

[Scandinavian]

I’d modify to… never buy first version

Not sure the second version is easier to sell. They seem to be piling up!

 

[prj]

Nothing is piling up, it's just supply and demand.

There are two different cases:
a) Putting a car up for sale
b) Selling a car

Those that you see standing around are just doing a).
In the meantime those that are doing b) are moving really fast.

My Turbo S was sold in 3 days, the price was correct, not some wishful thinking.

There are a ton of cars with low mileage for sale at way too high prices. If you pressure the dealer a little you get a 8-10% discount on a new order Taycan. When they are selling a used car just 20% off list price (or even less) it's completely pointless.
Nobody will buy it, because you can just configure a new car with exactly the options you want and not overpay for stupid shit you don't need. In the end you get a new car for the same money and the spec you want.

So then you have the impression that they are "piling up" - no they are not, they're just trying to sell at unrealistic prices.
Also if you care about resale value on your car - spec it in a monochrome color with black interior. If you make it bright blue with a red interior, then of course you will have much harder time to find a buyer. Majority of people just like neutral colors and it's much easier to sell then.

And finally in case of J1.1 Taycan - the J1.2 is a massive leap, so it pushes the prices of the first gen down a lot as well.

 

[B61]

J2 is definitelly (much) better, less failures… so it could last more years, means that loss of value per month will be lower etc.
I guess, that owner of other premium brands are in the same boat: early adopters are paying the price for new tech

 

[B61]

My Turbo S was sold in 3 days, the price was correct, not some wishful thinking.

My 4 years old CT4 was sold for 59k€ in few days… the price of the new was 140k

 

[prj]

My 4 years old CT4 was sold for 59k€ in few days… the price of the new was 140k

Back in the day bought my Audi S8 with 60000km for 33k, it was just under 5 years old. The new price was also 140k.
Seems completely normal to me, I'd say the Taycan did better than my S8.

If you want appreciating assets, buy real estate or gold or something. Cars are just a waste of money anyway - except perhaps the collectors cars, but Taycan is never going to be one of those.

 

[D00notD00d]

Since you can get the "aging fault" in any battery module at any time, which actually is a manufacturing defect in the battery, but they are excluding those from Porsche Approved.

The updated Porsche Approved warranty terms, first published by some members here and in Germany, now include HVB manufacturing defects. (see * below)
The Ageing Wear and Tear list still excludes the HVB if it fails due to wear and tear.
Note the ‘if’ - Porsche AG determines whether the cause is a manufacturing defect, or ageing consistent with the expected service life. How Porsche AG interprets this is yet to be tested. Their submission to safety authorities regarding the HVB manufacturing defect effectively states that the defect is latent and can surface at any point during the HVB service life. The only precedent available for HVB service life is provided by Tesla - and perhaps in time, other high mileage Porsche EVs.
It gets messy if the monitoring software which Porsche implemented to satisfy safety authorities about the fire risk arising from the defect detects a defect after expiry of the 8 year warranty, but inside Porsche Approved Warranty cover. The defect was present at the point of purchase …..
TBC in 2028 once manufacturers warranties start to expire.


* The Porsche web site now includes an updated terms and conditions document with this change for warranties purchased after 15/9/25.
https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/approvedwarranty/

My warranty was purchased well before 15/9/25, but runs into October 2027. I need to check the impact of this with Porsche GB - because the HVB manufacturers warranty continues past Oct 2027 it probably doesn’t matter. Others may wish to check their cover.

 

[whitex]

Back in the day bought my Audi S8 with 60000km for 33k, it was just under 5 years old. The new price was also 140k.
Seems completely normal to me, I'd say the Taycan did better than my S8.

If you want appreciating assets, buy real estate or gold or something. Cars are just a waste of money anyway - except perhaps the collectors cars, but Taycan is never going to be one of those.

You are correct. Cars depreciate, higher end, new 4-door cars especially. My 2001 911C4 depreciated 50% in just two years. I sold it in 2003 so way before EV boom and Chinese competition. Some people’s price perceptions got skewed over COVID, and internet is using this to hype up "massive depreciation". Or, perhaps Porsche is now attracting customers from cars like below, and those customers scaled their depreciation expectations from say a Corolla to a Taycan.

 

[D00notD00d]

* The Porsche web site now includes an updated terms and conditions document with this change for warranties purchased after 15/9/25.
https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/approvedwarranty/

- I’ve now compared the Terms and Conditions of the Porsche AG\GB Approved Warranty before and after the changes from 15/9/25.
- Apart from the expected addition of the HVB to the ‘What is Covered‘ list, there is one other significant change under ‘Scope of Cover‘
‘If the repair costs exceed the value of a replacement unit appropriate for its age and wear, the claim shall be limited to the free instillation of such a replacement unit.’
(Their spelling typo).
- As far as I know, this inclusion of a financial claims limit within the Porsche Approved Warranty is a first.
- It is a further small print departure from the web site marketing claim:
“With the Porsche Approved Warranty, you can enjoy unlimited driving pleasure – and along with it a new level of peace of mind. Because no matter how often or how far you drive your Porsche, the Porsche Approved Warranty applies without any mileage limit during the contract term up to a vehicle age of 15 years – even without prior warranty coverage.

- The new scope limitation term isnt quantitative, it is ambiguous and open to interpretation by Porsche AG. The UK Ombudsman‘s Vehicle Warranties Code of Practice, which Porsche hasnt signed up to, precludes this kind of ambiguity. Arbitration of such terms would usually occur in the consumer’s favour.

- Since the only substantive change is the inclusion of the HVB as a covered item, the inference is that labour costs would be allowed, but possibly not parts. But the term is so unclear it is anyone‘s guess. Traction Motors (drivetrain) are more expensive than HVB components

- Those in other countries may wish to clarify all this with their local national Porsche warranty contacts. In theory this warranty is supported globally and terms are consistent but local warranty terms should be checked.

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