Charge to 85% - What on earth is going on!!!

[GHamilton]

"DIRECT CHARGING" when button is enabled will over ride the app/car settings and DIRECT CHARGING will always charge to 100% when left unattended and ignore the profile settings.

Make sure your big DIRECT CHARGING" button is not blue, should be grey. Then the profiles will be secondary settings when car is plugged in, the active profiles will be activated.

yes this is a bug not a user error as I'm very familiar with the direct charging button in PCM and toggle in app. calling Porsche now to seek guidance

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[azraeil]

Hmmmm never had this problem. I don't have a timer. The only time I create a timer is when I want to charge the car to 100% before I go for a long roadtrip (i.e. leaving at 10 so I set a timer for the car to charge to 100% by 9:30AM). Otherwise I just set a profile where I set the minimum charge to 85% (now I set it to 80% because of that stupid your house can burn down warning letter). Car charge to 85% or 80% and it's done.

 

[4thPcar]

Hi - Yes, I know this topic has been discussed 1,000 times but most of the threads seem to be closed down by someone entering the discussion and saying ‘you just set a timer for 85%’ or ‘the minimum charge in profile is actually a maximum’, etc…

None of this is true.

I set a timer for 85% at 8am, wake up at 10 and the F***IN car is at 100%.

I set the profile minimum charge to 85% overnight, wake-up and the F***ING car is at 100%.

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW YOU MAKE THE THING STOP AT 85% AND FOR IT TO ACTUALLY STOP 85%?

I had this problem and solved it by tapping the "Direct Charge" button inside the car. If you used it previously, it needs to be manually shut off or it keeps overriding the timer.

 

[laua]

I've had the WPN9 PCM update since last May, is that the one you're referring to?



Same here, have a '23 and use Tesla J1772 Wall Connector (or ChargePoint Home Flex) and use 4.
Today I tested 2. with disabled timers and 80% profile, it stopped at 80% and didn't start up again.
Then tested 2. with deleted timers and 85%, also stopped.

I was inspired by this to go try it out again today. I deleted all my timers and using the profile only, I saw it just stopped at 60%(per my setting)! I’ve not changed anything to my charging set up or anything else so I’m not sure what changed. Either way I’m happy with the result.

 

[GHamilton]

yes this is a bug not a user error as I'm very familiar with the direct charging button in PCM and toggle in app. calling Porsche now to seek guidance

Porsche Support had me delete timers and set one up new on the PCM vs the app. This solved my problem (if it charging to 100% regardless of timer settings)

 

[Jhenson29]

Like if the timer's scheduled maximum is that day after the profile's preferred times, it will charge during those times then complete after, or something else?

Just in general. It will start before or continue/start after if needed. For a contrived example, if your preferred times are 2am-4am and and your timer is 7am, if it takes 4 hours to charge, it will charge from 2am-4am and then 5am-7am. Change your preferred times to 5am-7am and it will charge from 3am-7am.

They are your “preferred” times. It’s not a strict window. This is why I’ve said many times that having a timer departure time at the end of a preferred time makes the preferred times superfluous.

 

[simpsy100]

Wasn't ignored but didn't make sense until someone else explained this logic about why recurring makes a difference. Sorry if you did explain this in as much details as the person quoted above and I missed it.

Have you managed to solve this issue yet as the above looks like your last post? I’ve been following the thread and giving some thought to it. I highly doubt it is the case, but next time you are charging take screenshots of the profile being used while charging. I can’t imagine why it would change from your settings as you are not using Octopus Intelligent Go, but worth checking.

As a point of reference to this thread as great info in here (this won’t help the OP) but I started my home charging journey with using Octopus Intelligent Go and letting it control the timers and profiles. It was a nightmare. I basically exchanged range anxiety with charge anxiety! Ultimately my issue was poor cell signal for the cars SIM so Octopus struggled to control the start & stop. It was a lottery whether I would be over or under charged each day.

I ditched Intelligent Go and just pay the extra 1p off peak for Go. I have a home profile set for 45% min & optimsed. I also have a daily timer set for 85% and for the off peak tariff hours. In addition though i have charger locked to the off-peak hours only to make sure my charging stays cheap. I know that from the 5hrs available off peak I can add around 40% charge. So if I’m plugging in at below 45% and need the car to be at 85% the following morning i will unlock the charger and let the car do its thing. I don’t use the car every day though so leaving the charger on the timer will just mean it might take two cycles to get me back to 85%. I of course just ignore the Porsche app telling me on the first cycle I won’t hit the 85% target.

 

[glon]

CONCLUSION

So, as @azraeil says below, I used to be able to just set the 'minimum' to my target charge in the profile and the charging would stop at that.

Since the latest software update the minimum has become exactly that, a minimum - so it keeps going to 100%.

Thanks to everyone who explained that the only way now to set a target maximum - that the car actually sticks to - is to do it via a timer AND that that timer must be set to repeat (thanks to @SergeyIndy for explaining the logic of why it needs to be recurring so clearly).

For my last few charges I have set the profile minimum to 85% (which the car will try to reach as quickly as possible) and the RECURRING timer to 85% and it works!

I know this was intuitive to those who had originally wanted a timer but my confusion came from
a) it used to work via profile only as @azraeil says below
and
b) I didn't actually need a timer as I didn't care when it reached my target charge, just that it stopped at my target charge so setting up a timer felt counter intuitive to me .

All good now though - until Porsche do another software update without explanation and it all changes again that is. Thanks for eveyone who offered advice!

Hmmmm never had this problem. I don't have a timer. The only time I create a timer is when I want to charge the car to 100% before I go for a long roadtrip (i.e. leaving at 10 so I set a timer for the car to charge to 100% by 9:30AM). Otherwise I just set a profile where I set the minimum charge to 85% (now I set it to 80% because of that stupid your house can burn down warning letter). Car charge to 85% or 80% and it's done.

 

[simpsy100]

CONCLUSION

So, as @azraeil says below, I used to be able to just set the 'minimum' to my target charge in the profile and the charging would stop at that.

Since the latest software update the minimum has become exactly that, a minimum - so it keeps going to 100%.

Thanks to everyone who explained that the only way now to set a target maximum - that the car actually sticks to - is to do it via a timer AND that that timer must be set to repeat (thanks to @SergeyIndy for explaining the logic of why it needs to be recurring so clearly).

For my last few charges I have set the profile minimum to 85% (which the car will try to reach as quickly as possible) and the RECURRING timer to 85% and it works!

I know this was intuitive to those who had originally wanted a timer but my confusion came from
a) it used to work via profile only as @azraeil says below
and
b) I didn't actually need a timer as I didn't care when it reached my target charge, just that it stopped at my target charge so setting up a timer felt counter intuitive to me .

All good now though - until Porsche do another software update without explanation and it all changes again that is. Thanks for eveyone who offered advice!

Glad you managed to get it sorted. I agree with you though, it is not an easy or logical system to follow!

 

[Gino]

CONCLUSION

So, as @azraeil says below, I used to be able to just set the 'minimum' to my target charge in the profile and the charging would stop at that.

Since the latest software update the minimum has become exactly that, a minimum - so it keeps going to 100%.

Thanks to everyone who explained that the only way now to set a target maximum - that the car actually sticks to - is to do it via a timer AND that that timer must be set to repeat (thanks to @SergeyIndy for explaining the logic of why it needs to be recurring so clearly).

For my last few charges I have set the profile minimum to 85% (which the car will try to reach as quickly as possible) and the RECURRING timer to 85% and it works!

I know this was intuitive to those who had originally wanted a timer but my confusion came from
a) it used to work via profile only as @azraeil says below
and
b) I didn't actually need a timer as I didn't care when it reached my target charge, just that it stopped at my target charge so setting up a timer felt counter intuitive to me .

All good now though - until Porsche do another software update without explanation and it all changes again that is. Thanks for eveyone who offered advice!

I’m seeing the same thing. My home profile is set to 85% to charge between 10pm & 8am at 120V with the Porsche charger but now it no longer says “charging paused” or charging complete once it reaches 85%. It continues to charge to 100% if I don’t physically unplug it.
This is quite annoying as I’m trying to stop the charging from the app while I’m traveling but I can’t stop it. I even tried to change the profile charging hours but it still won’t stop charging.
Now I’m concerned the charging times are irrelevant and it will not stop charging until it reaches 100% which defeats the whole purpose of setting of charging profiles.
My dealer told me if I want to bypass a charging limit like the 85% that I just have to select “direct charging” and it will disregard the profile settings.
This did work but now I’m dumbfounded that Porsche doesn’t have a way to stop charging from the app. With EA I can stop charging from the app or at least I used to be able to a month ago…

 

[glon]

I’m seeing the same thing. My home profile is set to 85% to charge between 10pm & 8am at 120V with the Porsche charger but now it no longer says “charging paused” or charging complete once it reaches 85%. It continues to charge to 100% if I don’t physically unplug it.
This is quite annoying as I’m trying to stop the charging from the app while I’m traveling but I can’t stop it. I even tried to change the profile charging hours but it still won’t stop charging.
Now I’m concerned the charging times are irrelevant and it will not stop charging until it reaches 100% which defeats the whole purpose of setting of charging profiles.
My dealer told me if I want to bypass a charging limit like the 85% that I just have to select “direct charging” and it will disregard the profile settings.
This did work but now I’m dumbfounded that Porsche doesn’t have a way to stop charging from the app. With EA I can stop charging from the app or at least I used to be able to a month ago…

Yep, agree - why not just add a stop button.

But setting a recurring timer as I say does stop the charge at your chosen level (as long as direct charging is off)

 

[Gino]

Porsche Support had me delete timers and set one up new on the PCM vs the app. This solved my problem (if it charging to 100% regardless of timer settings)

I will have to try this when I get home and my vehicle is at 100% or my garage is gone… ha ha ha!

I had this problem and solved it by tapping the "Direct Charge" button inside the car. If you used it previously, it needs to be manually shut off or it keeps overriding the timer.

I’m seeing the same thing. My home profile is set to 85% to charge between 10pm & 8am at 120V with the Porsche charger but now it no longer says “charging paused” or charging complete once it reaches 85%. It continues to charge to 100% if I don’t physically unplug it.
This is quite annoying as I’m trying to stop the charging from the app while I’m traveling but I can’t stop it. I even tried to change the profile charging hours but it still won’t stop charging.
Now I’m concerned the charging times are irrelevant and it will not stop charging until it reaches 100% which defeats the whole purpose of setting of charging profiles.
My dealer told me if I want to bypass a charging limit like the 85% that I just have to select “direct charging” and it will disregard the profile settings.
This did work but now I’m dumbfounded that Porsche doesn’t have a way to stop charging from the app. With EA I can stop charging from the app or at least I used to be able to a month ago…

A “recurring” timer has been mentioned but I can’t find this setting. There used to be no choice I see for recurring in the timer tab or under the profile tab. Am I missing something?

I’ll have to try this but I haven’t used the direct charging setting

CONCLUSION

So, as @azraeil says below, I used to be able to just set the 'minimum' to my target charge in the profile and the charging would stop at that.

Since the latest software update the minimum has become exactly that, a minimum - so it keeps going to 100%.

Thanks to everyone who explained that the only way now to set a target maximum - that the car actually sticks to - is to do it via a timer AND that that timer must be set to repeat (thanks to @SergeyIndy for explaining the logic of why it needs to be recurring so clearly).

For my last few charges I have set the profile minimum to 85% (which the car will try to reach as quickly as possible) and the RECURRING timer to 85% and it works!

I know this was intuitive to those who had originally wanted a timer but my confusion came from
a) it used to work via profile only as @azraeil says below
and
b) I didn't actually need a timer as I didn't care when it reached my target charge, just that it stopped at my target charge so setting up a timer felt counter intuitive to me .

All good now though - until Porsche do another software update without explanation and it all changes again that is. Thanks for eveyone who offered advice!

I think I got it to work. I found the “repeat timer” setting (not recurring changing”) where you can select the days for the profile settings to be enabled.
It apparently worked! The charging immediately stopped since it was at 92% already when I have it set to 85%. Now it says “charging process completed”. I’m amazed at how complicated Porsche makes this.
Thanks so much to everyone for all the tips that allowed me to figure out what I needed to do to get this to finally work!

 

[W1NGE]

I’m seeing the same thing. My home profile is set to 85% to charge between 10pm & 8am at 120V with the Porsche charger but now it no longer says “charging paused” or charging complete once it reaches 85%. It continues to charge to 100% if I don’t physically unplug it.
This is quite annoying as I’m trying to stop the charging from the app while I’m traveling but I can’t stop it. I even tried to change the profile charging hours but it still won’t stop charging.
Now I’m concerned the charging times are irrelevant and it will not stop charging until it reaches 100% which defeats the whole purpose of setting of charging profiles.
My dealer told me if I want to bypass a charging limit like the 85% that I just have to select “direct charging” and it will disregard the profile settings.
This did work but now I’m dumbfounded that Porsche doesn’t have a way to stop charging from the app. With EA I can stop charging from the app or at least I used to be able to a month ago…

You can stop from the app if you enable a timer which is in the future and / or recurring.

Perhaps not entirely what you are looking for but it will stop the process there and then.

 

[Gino]

You can stop from the app if you enable a timer which is in the future and / or recurring.

Perhaps not entirely what you are looking for but it will stop the process there and then.

Thanks! That’s what I did & it worked!

 

[Gino]

Thanks! That’s what I did & it worked!

It is interesting Porsche makes it easy to bypass all timers & profile settings with the “direct charging” button but they don’t make it as simple to stop charging with a single button.
Much more complicated than it has to be.
Well, at least with everyone’s help on the forum I was able to get it to work as it should.

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