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Porsche Developing 800 mile Solid State Battery

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I'd love to think that they might but strongly suspect that that will be a low to non-priority item in its development.
 

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I fully expect to drive my Taycan in 10 years unless I'm dead or the car develops serious (expensive) problems. I drove my MB for 12 years and my wife continues to use it. It just works and works and works.

I hope that at that time, someone (Porsche or 3rd party) will offer a swap replacement for gen 1 Taycans with either massive range at the same weight or same range with a 30-50% weight reduction. Either way, it's going to be cool ?
 


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While I'm looking forward to improved technology, this media outlet has a history of overpromoting vaporware.
 

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That's the usual marketing blah blah.

The reality is, that they don't have the tech nor do they have the material sourcing for reasonable pricing. They purchase the litium for 60k per ton, the Chinese with CATL pay about half. So they can make bigger batteries, the Germans cannot, unless they start investing in local and global mining.

So while Porsche talks, I drive the 140kWh 700 km car.

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https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...-ev-comes-out-in-2-versions.15449/post-247560
 


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Sending Porsche positive vibes on this endeavor. Any solution that doesn’t involve Elon sounds promising to me.
If it accelerates the transition to EVs, improves the environmental impact of EVs, and/or makes EVs substantially better cars, I don't give a sh*t if Elon is involved or not.

Really don't understand why his involvement or lack thereof should rank at all in decision criteria.
 

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I still feel that better and more comprehensive charging networks is the answer. Nobody stresses over the capacity of a 911 fuel tank – because of the general availability of petrol stations.

If (when) these kinds of batteries come on-stream won't it be more likely they'll just use just half of the battery to give us 400km range and a much lighter vehicle?

With electric motors being much lighter than ICE engines, if they can gradually get the weight of batteries down – could we see a future where EV's end up lighter than what ICE-based cars "used" to be?
 

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I still feel that better and more comprehensive charging networks is the answer. Nobody stresses over the capacity of a 911 fuel tank – because of the general availability of petrol stations.

If (when) these kinds of batteries come on-stream won't it be more likely they'll just use just half of the battery to give us 400km range and a much lighter vehicle?

With electric motors being much lighter than ICE engines, if they can gradually get the weight of batteries down – could we see a future where EV's end up lighter than what ICE-based cars "used" to be?
Completely agree.

Charging infrastructure and speed of charging is the key requirement.

I have petrol cars with no more range then the Taycan but can fill them at far more places, though having a cup of tea while it fills itself isn't an option :(

A lighter car with the same range would be 10x more attractive to me than just more range, which I don't need personally.
 

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Really don't understand why his involvement or lack thereof should rank at all in decision criteria.
Some people have principles, and I personally don't like to give money to someone whose politics and morals I find questionable.
 

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Some people have principles, and I personally don't like to give money to someone whose politics and morals I find questionable.
I guess what I'm saying is :
We're heading towards a climate disaster. I would have expected that most educated people's principles would weigh "is this choice of mine accelerating technologies and products that are part of a sustainable path" over "I don't like the anti-union/other politics of the CEO".
 

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??? so funny
Great news but my experience in Ireland right now suggests infrastructure is the challenge. While improving here, it feels like we are developing the MVP of facilities (the song and dance being made about a 150kw Charge facilities is now boring!). We should be (1) developing more the back end infrastructure and (2) supporting the dev. of the fastest facilities possible to allow us avail of better battery tech that will inevitably come.
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