Front: about 380€ a piece
The biggest reason I would not order a complete tire from Porsche. I've had my fill with mystery tires that came on my Taycan from the factory. For my winters, I ordered the tires and wheels separately to ensure I get the tires I want (Porsche wheels, NF0 tires).
I’m 2 legs into this winter transeurooean trip. Currently in dolomites and pissing down with snow. Went out in the Taycan on the Alpin tyres. Fantastic. Couple of brake checks from ~40kmh almost zero abs felt. Can wheel spin if mashing the throttle but otherwise fantastic. Several muppets with non-winter tyres and no snow chains spinning all over the inclines road. The Taycan on these tyres is a dream. Charged the car in a snowy parking lot about 5 or 6” of snow - nose in reverse out no trouble.
Any warranty issues there when these non-NF0 are mounted? I wonder if anyone had any issue with Porsche when they mounted NON NF0 tires....
Don't rely on my understanding- I'm new to both winter tyres and Porsche N-ratings, but I've read that the multipoint health-check required to get Porsche's own extended warranty required the tyres to have the correct N ratings, and that Porsche offered lower trade-in values for cars with non-rated tyres...HOWEVER, I've also read that this policy has recently changed so that N-rating is now only recommended, rather than required.
Wonder if the regenerative braking has enough retardation that the ABS brakes would almost ever get used. Can you turn on the regen screen and see how the regen works in snow conditions?I’m 2 legs into this winter transeurooean trip. Currently in dolomites and pissing down with snow. Went out in the Taycan on the Alpin tyres. Fantastic. Couple of brake checks from ~40kmh almost zero abs felt. Can wheel spin if mashing the throttle but otherwise fantastic. Several muppets with non-winter tyres and no snow chains spinning all over the inclines road. The Taycan on these tyres is a dream. Charged the car in a snowy parking lot about 5 or 6” of snow - nose in reverse out no trouble.
you’re not gonna be rallying and ripping up the road but they will get you around when others can’t move.
undoubtedly a pricey option but so happy I fitted them.
Not sure that I have heard of any Porsche dealer raising any issues of using non NF0 Winter tyres! As I have seen here in Sweden and Norway, Porsche dealers sell Taycan winter wheels with Nokian and Michelin non NF0. However they are proper dimensioned for load! XL tyres etc.
I think that’s been a bit overlooked on this thread, and one of the main reasons Porsche offer winter tyre + wheel combos in 20” sizes rather than 21”.
I drove down a mountain yesterday in snowy conditions (it was snowing 1-2”/hr, and it looked to have not been plowed yet). I did not try a hard stop (nor had to do a full stop) and the hydraulic brakes never came in. I can try again tomorrow.
AFAIK normal braking is blended, but as soon as ABS kicks in due to slipping, brakes switch to all mechanical mode because there is no regen ABS implementation. Of course blended comes right back when traction is regained.
What I’m saying is in snow, does the regen achieve enough retardation that the ABS and or friction brakes do not activate because the tires have already reached their limit of adhesion through regeneration?
Provided your battery is not full and not frozen, Taycan can regen brake up to 270KW, which at low speeds is very strong (compare to Tesla one-pedal-to-stop driving which maxes out at 75KW IIRC). So definitely, you can brake quite hard at low speeds with only regen.
Well aware of that. What happens at lock up? ABS/ friction go off or does regen somehow pulse and achieve the same effect?
