EU/UK: Ongoing navigation issues

[Dabz]

I’ve got a few long trips - Europe and Scotland - this spring and I’ll be relying on pre-planning and Apple Maps, but the nav only showing on the center screen is hard work when you’re navigating cities.

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[okkotonushi]

Just sad to read. We need to trust our vehicles. I'm afraid I have to sell because of this. Every trip I have navigation anxiety. Last summer I was stuck in Lyon (1500km from home) with 3% battery in the middle of the night. My navigation was frozen and told me I had to drive for another 200km and had 60% battery left. After that incident I never drove peacefully.

Hi jaspe4r, sorry to say but that is nonsense.

You can look at your battery charge in your tubes, you now that 10% of battery is for suree 30km drive capability. If the navigation stucks use google maps to find a charger.

I know these are all fixes but it works. I'll always check before I drive longer distances my favorite chargers (Ionity, Aral) all other s are too expensive an this works

 

[Jasper4S]

Hi jaspe4r, sorry to say but that is nonsense.

You can look at your battery charge in your tubes, you now that 10% of battery is for suree 30km drive capability. If the navigation stucks use google maps to find a charger.

I know these are all fixes but it works. I'll always check before I drive longer distances my favorite chargers (Ionity, Aral) all other s are too expensive an this works

I don't think you fully understand the issue. I'm glad all work arounds work for you. I'm sorry we have bothered you with a non existing issue.

 

[chun]

Hi jaspe4r, sorry to say but that is nonsense.

You can look at your battery charge in your tubes, you now that 10% of battery is for suree 30km drive capability. If the navigation stucks use google maps to find a charger.

I know these are all fixes but it works. I'll always check before I drive longer distances my favorite chargers (Ionity, Aral) all other s are too expensive an this works

Yea; 50 pages and hundreds of users must be wrong.

The few hundreds on the German forum, also wrong.

Clearly you are right. Let me guess, first time your hear of this issue? Which porsche center your work at, so we can avoid getting a “first time we see this issue” even though it affects all j1.1 in Europe, info I have directly from porsche mobility devs in Cluj

How exactly do you precondition your battery in winter when you arrive at that charger you found manually with Google Maps?

Does porsche pay me for every minute I am late somewhere because the battery was not preconditioned due to navigation freezing / crashing?

 

[Jasper4S]

Yea; 50 pages and hundreds of users must be wrong.

The few hundreds on the German forum, also wrong.

Clearly you are right. Let me guess, first time your hear of this issue? Which porsche center your work at, so we can avoid getting a “first time we see this issue” even though it affects all j1.1 in Europe, info I have directly from porsche mobility devs in Cluj

How exactly do you precondition your battery in winter when you arrive at that charger you found manually with Google Maps?

Does porsche pay me for every minute I am late somewhere because the battery was not preconditioned due to navigation freezing / crashing?

Glad to see I was not the only one triggered by Dirk.

 

[okkotonushi]

Glad to see that you didn't understand my points as well.
You wrote you have to sell the car and that is nonsense in my eyes, you don't have to.

I know all the issues...despite of that I have 2 Taycans (4S and CT Turbo S) and I'm happy with them.

Is the software good? Unfortunalety: NO! It's a crap.

Is the car a good one? YES.

I'm not a person who is always mouncing, I'm looking for solutions.

Don't use Porsche charging planner, then you have less failure with the PCM. Use Google Maps or whatever for routing. 30 minutes before you have to charge change to Sport mode or drive a little bit faster (possible in germany) and your battery will have the right temperature 27-35 degrees). I always know the battery temperature due to my tube content (photo). Or start the porsche navigation 30 minutes before you arrive at the charging point.

What I'm truly missing is the apple car play navigation in the headup display.

As I said software is crap.
AND don't buy a Taycan without Porsche approved

 

[okkotonushi]

Yea; 50 pages and hundreds of users must be wrong.

The few hundreds on the German forum, also wrong.

Clearly you are right. Let me guess, first time your hear of this issue? Which porsche center your work at, so we can avoid getting a “first time we see this issue” even though it affects all j1.1 in Europe, info I have directly from porsche mobility devs in Cluj

How exactly do you precondition your battery in winter when you arrive at that charger you found manually with Google Maps?

Does porsche pay me for every minute I am late somewhere because the battery was not preconditioned due to navigation freezing / crashing?

There are not hundreds....You're exaggerating massively.

By today there are 74 in a specific thread for this.

regarding preconditioning see my post to jasper before

 

[okkotonushi]

I know why you are laughing, my number was wrong.

73 at the moment

https://www.pff.de/thread/2831331-l...n-und-verpasste-abfahrten-lags-uebe/?pageNo=2

 

[chun]

There are not hundreds....You're exaggerating massively.

By today there are 74 in a specific thread for this.

regarding preconditioning see my post to jasper before

Let me know how driving in sports mode works at -10 and how long it takes to reach 35; and how much battery it uses to achieve that

Sport plus mode is hardly useable for heating the battery for charging in cold temps. In most use cases, it’s useful in summer while already at the charger, to force the fans on to batter handle temp

Not everyone with the issue that commented in the Navi mega thread signed on the list you link I didn’t, and many others didn’t as well

But you are correct on the fact that it’s not hundreds, it’s tens of thousands, as per porsche info

 

[okkotonushi]

You’re a Hero.

Don’t forget you mentioned hundreds. I just showed that you post fake news.
And again. Where are the official porsche infos of ten of thousands?

 

[smoothound]

Come on guys get a room!

 

[okkotonushi]

I’m out here. Don’t want to waste my time

 

[ovonrein]

A noddy observation / suggestion / question to the worst sufferers of nav failures here. I assume that everyone drives around with their map pointing in the direction of travel? (I think it is the default.) In that mode, I noticed the other day, the map moves a lot more - also in and out - than when you select "North up". Now, much speculation on this thread is about the h/w not being able to keep up with the map. You might wonna try out "North up" to see whether that works better for you.

 

[E500]

A noddy observation / suggestion / question to the worst sufferers of nav failures here. I assume that everyone drives around with their map pointing in the direction of travel? (I think it is the default.) In that mode, I noticed the other day, the map moves a lot more - also in and out - than when you select "North up". Now, much speculation on this thread is about the h/w not being able to keep up with the map. You might wonna try out "North up" to see whether that works better for you.

It's worth a try, but so far the only thing I've found that reliably stops it crashing is to disable the charge planning, which is fine for shorter journeys but obviously totally defeats the point for long trips. (I've also noticed that charge planning seems to re-enable itself sporadically and I have to then disable it again after the nav has crashed once...)

Have you managed a stable nav system over long journeys using the 'north up' method?

 

[ovonrein]

Have you managed a stable nav system over long journeys using the 'north up' method?

No - did not think to try this trick on the run out thru Benelux when my nav crashed every 10 mins. Then again, my nav did not crash once on the same run back. (Both 450km runs with charge planner on.) That is, my nav is not as unstable as some people here experience.

The example of @Dabz totally baffles me - I have driven around his neighbourhood and there is nothing there. No roads, no chargers. So I am not totally convinced that all problems reported here with the nav trace back to the same underlying issue. It would be impossible for us users to tell the difference between a software bug, an overloaded PCM and a faulty memory chip inside a PCM.

EDIT: Just read back thru this thread and I am actually unclear. @Jasper4S, did your new PCM h/w now reduce the incidence of your nav s/w crashing? I would not expect it to fix it entirely because the current software looks like it is overloaded with the huge number of chargers today, but if it has improved then perhaps your PCM just had a faulty memory chip.

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